Moriond, thanks for the pics.
Moriond, thanks for the pics.
Thanks everyone! Yikes, I thought I'd edited out the part about liking the old one better! Really that's an oversimplification. I like the old one better *for EDC*.
I'm keeping the new-style Solar SE, because (a) it's Solar! I *have* to keep it if it's Solar! and (b) it'll work as an organizer inside another bag. And I'm planning to order *another* in black Ballistic, because *since the belt is removable* it'll work as a dressy purse, and I need one. For that I'll put up with the inconvenient o-ring placement since it's sure better than no o-rings at all!
I'm just not sure about keeping the one I had planned to use as my EDC. I like the removable waist strap, but for EDC I need a way to leave it on (or take it on and off *easily*), so I miss the sleeve. I love that it's made of Steel Dyneema, but I had expected it to be the lighter 200D (I thought I read on the forums that they were all 200D except the Nordic). And I like the discreet label placement...but the o-ring placement is a real problem for me.
What I need is an off-center top seam o-ring. The center one pushes the wallet just a bit too far to the side to fit comfortably, and the side seam one holds it just a bit too far down. The off-center top seam o-rings in the original SE are perfect for holding the wallet higher than everything else in the bag, helping it fit well and keeping it accessible. If only they were on the other side so they didn't interfere with the inside pockets!
Today I tried out the Solar 200D SE as an EDC. I love how light it is! It's so thin that my calendar shows through on the outside, which I actually think looks cute:
I tied one of the zipper cords to a side o-ring to enable the wallet to be lifted up just a little:
It doesn't hold the wallet higher like the old SE, but it no longer forces it down. Or there's an Etsy crafter I like who makes looped key fobs (similar to the Handle Loop)...maybe she'd make a double-headed key fob that's just a couple inches long. (Like...a shorter Key Strap. ) I feel like Double Carabiners would be too bulky for this. Maybe a small S-biner?
I missed the waist belt, though. Would Double Carabiners clip onto closed Gatekeeper Clips or is the opening on the Gatekeeper Clips too small? I really like the idea of using Double Carabiners or S-biners to attach a SE to a seat back tray!
Was the old-style SE ever made in Dyneema?
I attach my clear organizer wallet to the O-Ring in the front zippered pocket. One advantage of the O-ring placement at the top and between the pockets in main compartment of the new Side Effect is that keystraps attached there don't block items you pull out of the pockets.
I just use the Gatekeeper clips to attach the waist strap (from one of my Cafe Bags or Backpacks). You might watch @maverick's videos for both the original and new Side Effect that are both linked in today's Smaller-sized body hugging bag thread. There's also the Side Effect video from Tom Bihn In the blog.
My 14yo son and I used Side Effects on our trip to Rome/Paris. Mine is steel Dyneema, his is navy parapack. To whoever came up with the idea to use double carabiners to clip the SEs to seat pockets on planes - may you always be upgraded to first class. Brilliant! It worked so well.
I can fit my headphones (new beloved Bose Q20s) and tablet (Nexus 7) in the SE--all I need for a long flight is in one compact place. My son never misplaced his stuff (a new record). After the flight, the SEs went back into the backpacks, and off we went. No fuss.
I desperately want an SE in cardinal nylon (is that the right term?) or iberian dyneema! Alas, it is not available in those fabrics, so I've been carrying my iberian mesh organizer cube around on a cross body strap that is the same color as iberian and it functions wonderfully. It's very convenient to pull out of my large handbag that contains just about anything I could possibly need during the course of the day, when away from home.
I wonder if I could buy some of the cardinal fabric before it completely goes away? I do know how to sew, though I don't particularly like to; maybe I could make something myself. I just want the SE to go with my Aeronaut and Synapse color scheme.
3D Fabric Organizer Cube in Iberian Dyneema (like your mesh organizer cube, but with more fabric) or a Packing Cube Shoulder Bag in Iberian Dyneema, as shown in this post.
ETA: The above link doesn't go directly to the April 12, 2014 post if I use TapaTalk, so here's the image of my PCSB in Iberian from that post
I won't bother to try to copy the complete post, which you can read in the thread.
Both these accessories are currently in stock for order. The only comment about the Iberian Packing Cube Shpulder Bag is that because of its length, it is somewhat floppy when not filled. See the discussion at the end of the thread on 3 weeks in the UK with my Packing Cube Shoulder Bag for details:
3 Weeks in the UK with my Packing Cube Shoulder Bag
And you would probably need to order the Standard Shoulder Strap.
I've been requesting that they make more of the Side Effects in the other 200d Dyneema colors, like Iberian, Ultraviolet, and Wasabi (again), but that's not likely to happen while these Dyneema products remain in short supply.
Last edited by moriond; 04-19-2014 at 05:06 PM.
Does Scott put the SE into a Synapse 19 or 25 in the end of the in-house video? Does it fit into a Synapse 19 nonetheless?
Last edited by Tania68; 10-04-2014 at 08:31 AM. Reason: Thought I'd clarify which video I meant.
Tania68 the Backpack in which Scott the SE puts in is a Smart Alec. The SE does not fit into the Synampse 19 in the side pockets or the bottom pockets. Not fully loaded that is. If your SE is off Dyneema and not fully loaded you can fit it in there. I did not find that an ideal solution. The 3D Organizer Cubes are better fittet in the Synapse 19.
In the Synapse 25 it fits very well in the Bottom Pocket with a bit room to spare.
Hope this helps,
How does the "new" Side Effect compare to the "old" Side Effect in waist-pack uses? (I have an "old" Side Effect; I think I bought it in 2010.)
I just filled a Ballistic SE to capacity (with a thin cardigan in addition to the regular purse items I usually carry) and was still able to squeeze it into the bottom pocket of my S19. It took a bit of effort (I wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis) and would probably take even more effort if the main compartment of the S19 was also stuffed, but it was possible.
In my opinion, the main factor is probably how full you tend to keep your SE....
Should I bother waiting for a black / Ultra violet combo? Is that even a possibility? I really would like to order a SE but I'm waiting on this combo to become available. Am I waiting for nothing?