Continuing to derail...I am a new owner (last few months) of 3 large Shop Bags (2 400d steel dyneema, 1 ultraviolet) and 1 small Shop Bag (Wasabi) and already I've used them for multiple things. They are currently packed for a vacation trip to the beach, where I will test their sand-penetration (or lack there of) capacities. These are deceptively big bags, as they just swallow more and more and more! Well worth the price as these are lifetime bags (and good looking' ones at that!). Viva la Shop Bag!!